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King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:31 am
by TomGWI
Save the Date October 27th 2018
Registration opens Saturday August 25th at 9am
https://sites.google.com/site/flippinthefoxpinball/
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 9:10 am
by Hilton
man your collection just keeps getting more andmore awesome!!!!
When do you hope to open registration?
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 11:14 am
by TomGWI
Probably late August early September. I figure too early for most to know their schedule.
Will post in this thread when I have a more definitive date for registration.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:31 pm
by TomGWI
Registration will open Saturday August 25th at 9am
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:06 pm
by epthegeek
Gonna give the new ‘fair strikes’ format a try for part two of the day?
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:30 pm
by TomGWI
epthegeek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 6:06 pm
Gonna give the new ‘fair strikes’ format a try for part two of the day?
Going to run the tournaments the same way I did the Appleton MatchPlay/Strikeout event. I really like the format.
The old format was too tough to run having the Strike Tournament running concurrently with the MatchPlay Tournament. This way I keep my sanity, people play more pinball and 2 tournaments are still run.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:40 pm
by epthegeek
Yeah, but for the strikes portion, was wondering if youd try fair strikes instead of straight knockout. The ‘zero strikes for first, 2 strikes for last, 1 strike for anybody else’ new way to do knockout that keeps more people in longer with like 5 strikes instead of 3.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 4:58 am
by Hilton
I was told the cool kids are calling that "progressive strikes" format
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:54 am
by TomGWI
epthegeek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:40 pm
Yeah, but for the strikes portion, was wondering if youd try fair strikes instead of straight knockout. The ‘zero strikes for first, 2 strikes for last, 1 strike for anybody else’ new way to do knockout that keeps more people in longer with like 5 strikes instead of 3.
So it is kinda like papa scoring in a way. 4-2-1-0. Great to be first, sucks to be last.
I just wonder if we would be ending at 2am.
I considered making it a 4 Strike Tournament instead of 3.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:32 am
by Hilton
TomGWI wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:54 am
epthegeek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:40 pm
Yeah, but for the strikes portion, was wondering if youd try fair strikes instead of straight knockout. The ‘zero strikes for first, 2 strikes for last, 1 strike for anybody else’ new way to do knockout that keeps more people in longer with like 5 strikes instead of 3.
So it is kinda like papa scoring in a way. 4-2-1-0. Great to be first, sucks to be last.
I just wonder if we would be ending at 2am.
I considered making it a 4 Strike Tournament instead of 3.
Trent runs a big Progressive strike tourney and the impression I get from him is that they are "more fun" and take a similar amount of time if the math works out for additional strikes.
Current Format awards an average of .5 strikes per match (4 players and bottom 2 get strikes; 2/4 = .5)
Progressive strikes format awards an average of 1 strike per match (4 players where 2nd and 3rd get 1 strike and 4th gets 2 strikes; 4/4 = 1)
You could go to 5 strikes with progressive and likely get done in similar time (possibly quicker?)
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:21 am
by TomGWI
Hilton wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:32 am
TomGWI wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:54 am
epthegeek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:40 pm
Yeah, but for the strikes portion, was wondering if youd try fair strikes instead of straight knockout. The ‘zero strikes for first, 2 strikes for last, 1 strike for anybody else’ new way to do knockout that keeps more people in longer with like 5 strikes instead of 3.
So it is kinda like papa scoring in a way. 4-2-1-0. Great to be first, sucks to be last.
I just wonder if we would be ending at 2am.
I considered making it a 4 Strike Tournament instead of 3.
Trent runs a big Progressive strike tourney and the impression I get from him is that they are "more fun" and take a similar amount of time if the math works out for additional strikes.
Current Format awards an average of .5 strikes per match (4 players and bottom 2 get strikes; 2/4 = .5)
Progressive strikes format awards an average of 1 strike per match (4 players where 2nd and 3rd get 1 strike and 4th gets 2 strikes; 4/4 = 1)
You could go to 5 strikes with progressive and likely get done in similar time (possibly quicker?)
So how does the TGP work then?
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:40 am
by Hilton
no idea how that one calculates under the progressive strikes.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:15 am
by TomGWI
Hilton wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:40 am
no idea how that one calculates under the progressive strikes.
Might be something I would consider in the future but for now going to keep things the way they are.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:15 am
by TomGWI
Hilton wrote: ↑Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:40 am
no idea how that one calculates under the progressive strikes.
Might be something I would consider in the future but for now going to keep things the way they are. Also might consider doing a 4 Strike Tournament but it will depend on timing of the first event.
Re: King of the Fox & Flippin the Fox Tournaments 2018
Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:34 am
by epthegeek
No, not progressive strikes. Fair strikes, they’re not the same. There’s a thread on tilt about it. Original was ‘keefer strikes’. Group of 4 is 0-1–1-2, three is 0-1-2, two is 0-2. Has the net result of keeping more people in till later rounds and then mass culling rather quickly, he ran a bunch of simulations.
http://www.tiltforums.com/t/thoughts-on ... oup/2166/7